Mario
Orlando is one of the most recognized Tango DJs in Buenos Aires. This
day, I didn’t have an appointment to have an interview with him but he
spontaneously accepted by Carlos Matera who is the organizer of
Sunderland kindly offering. The time was right after I interviewed
Graciela and Carlos Matera, and the night was about to start. People
started to come into the milonga, eating, greeting with people, not much
dancers on the dance floor yet. I wanted to interview a DJ also, so
this was a wonderful bonus, and he gave us a very interesting talk.
Q. How long have you been a DJ?
I have been DJing more or less 30 years.
In here (Sunderland) I’ve been DJing about 10 years. There is a place
I’ve been DJing for more than 15 years.
Q. When you provide music, how do you decide which music to play?
The music that I play is adapted by the
style of the neighborhood. Each neighborhood has its own style and
steps are different. What distinguishes the style here (Villa Urquiza)
is elegance and steps are long. There are places like in Center
(central area of down town BsAs) that I play faster rhythmic tangos,
like D’Arienzo, Biagi, Rodoriguez. Certain music is not as popular as
other clubs. For example, when I play Rodoriguez in here, they would
dance to it, but they are not very happy, because it doesn’t conform the
style they dance. Here what they like is Tanturi, Calo, Troilo, Di
Sarli, D’Agositono, I put a lot of Di Sarli here.
The music that I’m playing now is a new
Orchestra with a style of Di Sarli. It sounds like Di Sarli but it’s a
new group by younger people with it’s own personality. What I try to do
is to put some new music so people would get used to slowly. I keep
the tradition but at the same time I do adapt to the new people, new
milongueros. I up date repertoire but keep the night on the tradition.
Q. Do you change music by seasons?
Not exactly by the seasons, but the
season changes the crowds and I change the music by the crowds. For
example, in the low season which usually happens in April ~ August, the
mood changes in milongas, because there are more locals and not many
tourists. Also there are times when we have more people from Europe,
Japan, or the US. So I change the music by the people and the
atmosphere.
Q. Do you find local people and foreigners have different taste in music?
I think foreigners are more open-minded.
Argentineans tend to dance just 5 orchestras, and no more. That’s all
they want to hear.
When I started traveling abroad to DJ,
foreign DJs asked me “you don’t know this music?” It’s not that I don’t
know, I have the music but I don’t play it because people wouldn’t dance
to it. With foreigners I need to be more open-minded.
When I play music I always try to put lots
of energy into the music and I find foreign DJs don’t have much energy
in their music.
Q. How do local people accept music?
I think in tango, there’s always been a
great attachment in terms of music. For example the milongueros in the
'30s, they were used to the music of the '30s, so when the music of the
'40s came around, they said “No, you can’t dance to it” because it was
not familiar to them. But obviously the same thing happened in the
'50s. A lot of orchestras came out in this period, for example,
D’Angeles. People called carousel music. It was not accepted because
they didn’t recognize the music the way they adapt dancing.
Q. In general do DJ people dance tango?
No, the majority does not dance. They
can’t dance. But I think that is a big mistake, not being able to dance
as a DJ. I’ve been dancing for 25 years. I dance and DJ Salsa, too. I
like other styles as well. I used to DJ Disco, weddings, different
kinds of parties and events.
Q. What was it like DJing for other events?
It gave me flexibility to be very energetic
in my music. For example, you are in a wedding party with the moment
when everybody is eating, I noticed that DJs would put music that are
very very relaxing, like elevator music. The music was too quiet it
made people to sleep. By the time people started to go dancing, they
were too relaxed, it was impossible to move and dance. (Laugh) So
what I did was to put the music that people used to dance ten years ago
while they were eating. By recognizing the music, people would get into
the mood. I had different ways to put people to get up. This is the
way I kept to make people get up and dancing in Tango.
So you need skills to observe people in many different ways.
I think that the DJ is the psychiatrist of
the dance floor. Not of the individuals but of the dance floor. Once I
was invited to give a talk about the anthropology of the dance floor,
by a friend of mine who is an anthropologist. Because in tango, there
are different characters. For example, the people go dancing in the
afternoon are different from the people in the evening. Tango people in
the afternoon are the people who have problems, coming from lost in
time. They come to dance to be released, to forget about their
troubles. People who go out in night, they only want to have good
time.
Q. How do you find being a DJ?
There was a milonga that I was DJing for 11
years. One night I was passing music of Canaro from 1927. The floor
was very packed, because the music was so beautiful. People were
complaining because the floor was so packed they couldn’t move. There
was a woman who was dancing, and when she came around me she says “Take
away this music, it’s depressing me.” I said “Well, I am very sorry
about that but I am the DJ not your psychiatrist.” Obviously they were
complaining that they couldn’t dance. (laugh)
This job is very stressful. I have various
friends who stopped working as DJ because it’s very difficult. People
are never happy, always criticizing you. You can never please
everybody. It’s very thankless job.
I need to go back to the booth and change the music now.
I need to go back to the booth and change the music now.
Thank you so much for your time.